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Discussion Title:  POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Lakehaze

2005-04-26 01:05:00

POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Toyota's out-sell everybody in Japan. In the world I think they do well, but Mercedes has 'em beat. But here in the states, Honda and Nissan run hard competition.
For us Yanks (americans, not northerners) which is your favorite big import, Honda, Nissan, or Toyota?
I'm not including the little guys, Mitsu, and Subaru. Although they may be your favorite, they dont have the sales of the big three, and if I include them, I'll prolly forget the other dozen small Japanese brands out there.
And, Im also not including their 'American' distributors, Acura, Infiniti, and Lexus. If voting for Toyota, disreguard the Lexus IS300.



TatII

2005-04-26 01:59:00

hmmmm honda has the S2000, nissan has the 300hp Z. toyota has the tocoma X runner. advantage goes to nissan

honda has the accord v6, nissan has the Maxima, toyota has a Camry. hmmm tough one but i would choose the accord V6, followed closely by the Maxima SE. the toyota camry is again dead last not even close with their weak V6 engines and musshy asss brake pedals with their usual dose of novacain in their cars

honda has the civic Si, nissan has the SE-R spec V, toyota has the Corolla XJR or something.

SE-R spec V gets the vote since those actually can hit a low 15 second 1/4 mile and has a limited slip differential stock. Civic Si is pure rubbish and is a 16 second car. the corolla will give that rubbish civic a run for their money but its even uglier then the Si. as ugly as the SE-R looks, it still looks more maniler then the mini odessey and the corolla.

the Altima SE-R is in a class of their own and is capable of running mid to low 14's in the 1/4 mile. nissan has been listening to their customers and have been fixing small problems that people complain about. that is why the atlima got a face lift and new interior for 05 because customers complained about cheapness.

Honda doesn't even make a real SUV. so the biggest they got is a Pilot which is based off the mini van chassis. its a freaking unibody truck instead of a body on frame construction like a real truck. the Nissan pathfinder armada will pretty much burn almost any SUV on the road and has damn brutish looks too. toyota makes nice trucks as well. but theres no enough muscle under the hood, and not enough attitude

nissan's new Xterra ownz toyota highlander. nissan's Pathfinder armada owns the toyota squoea ( spelling? ) nissan's Murano owns toyota's RAV 4.

honda shouldn't even be in this catergory since they don't even make V8's.

my vote is nissan. a close second is honda. toyota is a distant third. they make a rediculous claim that their pickup truck the tocoma x runner can lap as fast as a 350Z. if they can make a truck that fast ( which it is not ) why can't they make a car to match it? as it currently stands, toyota has no sport cars in their line up. nothing!!!!!

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kman10587

2005-04-26 03:08:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Economy car: I'd take the Corolla XRS over the Civic Si, and any other Civic over any other Corolla. I'd stay away from the Sentra, as it's known to have poor build quality and spotty reliability (unlike the Sentras of old).

Midsize car: I'd take any Altima over any Accord (except maybe the V6 coupe with a six-speed manual transmission), and anything over a 5th gen. Camry (boring styling, boring drive).

Sports car: I'd take the S2000 over the 350Z. Toyota doesn't really have a sports car at the moment. The Celica GT-S is the closest thing they've got, and that's going away next year.

Overall, I think Honda is the best brand at the moment. Nissan is doing very well, but they need a better small car, and Nissan needs to solve the 350Z's transmission problems, and get rid of some of the understeer. It's a great performance value, it's just not a whole lot of fun to drive.

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youngvr4

2005-04-26 04:19:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

you drove one?

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kman10587

2005-04-26 05:08:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Who drove what now?

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crayzayjay

2005-04-26 06:07:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

I believe he's asking you if youve driven a 350Z

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crayzayjay

2005-04-26 06:08:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lakehaze
Toyota's out-sell everybody in Japan. In the world I think they do well, but Mercedes has 'em beat. But here in the states, Honda and Nissan run hard competition.
For us Yanks (americans, not northerners) which is your favorite big import, Honda, Nissan, or Toyota?
I'm not including the little guys, Mitsu, and Subaru. Although they may be your favorite, they dont have the sales of the big three, and if I include them, I'll prolly forget the other dozen small Japanese brands out there.
And, Im also not including their 'American' distributors, Acura, Infiniti, and Lexus. If voting for Toyota, disreguard the Lexus IS300.

250 day limit on your poll?

Read the stickies at the top of this forum and try not to refer to cars as 'imports' because AF is an international forum.

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mason_RsX

2005-04-26 08:06:00

Whats so damn unique about this thread that "northerners" (Canadians) can't express their opinion? and people around the world know Hondas Toyotas and Nissans

so screw you im making my opinion heard

Of those 3 brands I would choose Honda as the best because it has characteristics of Toyota, and Nissan and merges them. Honda incorporates the fuel effeciency, product quality, and general comfort and attention to detail that Toyota does. However, it also takes from the speed, and performance that Nissan puts in their cars (350Z, G35, Altima, Spec V)

Toyota is too boring, and Nissan is too into juvenille speeding...in this case

Thats why i think Honda is the top here, because in has both

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crayzayjay

2005-04-26 08:39:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Quote:
Originally Posted by mason_RsX
Whats so damn unique about this thread that "northerners" (Canadians) can't express their opinion?
I completely missed that. Yet another

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YogsVR4

2005-04-26 10:18:00

I own a Honda so that got my vote. If I end up picking up the Titan this year, I'll be moving over to the Nissan camp.

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BP2K2Max

2005-04-26 10:53:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

i voted Nissan for pretty much the same reasons as Tat. for every car that the competition has, IMO Nissan has something in the same class that's better.

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Lakehaze

2005-04-26 10:59:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Oops, sorry about the 'imports'. What's the PC term here, US-Bound Japanese, or USDM?
Editing the Poll is 'moderators only.' If a moderator would like to change the word <Import> to the correct global term, feel free. As for the 250 day limit, I thought I was just being respectful. I figured in over half a year, this thread would be long dead and didn't need to keep running. But if a moderator edits the poll, feel free to change the limit to whatever you feel is apropriate.

And "Yanks" was meant as just a self-humbling tease as thats what we are called by parts of the world, but growing up in the south, I know alot of people will think 'Northerners', as in the NY-Maine region, not Canadians. There is a little vestigial hostility down here.
I did not mean to imply that this was a US only discussion. I guess I made the assumption that only Americans would be intimately familiar with the American selection of US-bound Japanese cars, and that I was mostly talking to 'fellow americans'. No excuses though, I retract the 'Yanks' Statement and welcome all voices familiar with the US-Japanese choices.
Apologies...

Last edited by Lakehaze on 04-26-2005 at 11:30 AM.


illegal_eagle187

2005-04-26 11:29:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

nissan all the way for me

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drunken monkey

2005-04-26 11:53:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

..seeing as you are talking about japanese cars, wouldn't the obvious term simply be "japanese"?

and why only US market cars?
it's kinda like looking at half a picture.
just cos you may not get the car doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

for the record, i have an affection for honda (in general) simply because they have done and achieved so much.
i also admire the way they do things.
the are one of the few companies out there who really are trying to make things better instead of just making.

vtec, nsx, their diesel engine and road car engines taht rev to 13000 rpm.....



NISSANSPDR

2005-04-26 11:55:00

Re: POLL. Best Big-Three Import Brand

Nissan all the way too...

In sedans...the Altima makes more power than the Camry and equal to the Accord V6...but the V6 Accord's look like ass to me.

The Maxima beats out the Avalon...in my book...even though the new one has 280hp or so...but it looks better and comes in a 6 spd and w/a LSD...Honda doesnt really have an answer in house...unless you go to the Acura branch

I think the 350z has more potential than the S2k since it's got hardtop and soft top versions of the same car, and the motor has more potential...acceleration and power are pretty close w/the slight edge to the 350z...handling goes to the S2k but overall edge to the 350z. No answer from the Toyota front

Trucks wise...Nissan, followed by Toyota in a close 2nd...Honda...get a clue w/your Ridgeline!

SUV wise...I think it also is a very close one...Nissan in my book since the Xterra is packing serious power now, the Pathfinder is one of my favorite SUV's, the Armada is good for those who want beastly power and size...Toyota comes in a close 2nd since it has the Sequoia, Highlander, 4Runner, Rav4...do they still carry the Landcruiser?

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